I suggest because it’s already 9:50, that we start with the shooting of the…

Yeah, the screens.

Um…

I think the reason we have it already for, and he explained about the flag thing…

Just before?

Then let’s say, how can I frame it? Not every question, not every petition…

Yeah. For example, we have one. People want to have a new ministerial department against China interference, for example, and it wasn’t approved.

Let’s not reflect and perhaps the screens of the Join.gov.tw, and I hope I can see through my screen.

This is like the…

That one, yeah. Like the important thing is this, that it’s a…

Can you go back to also the link at the top again to see what…?

With, yeah, the proposal.

Also, we only have the title, or just have…?

Then, let’s go to the hair picture.

The hair?

Can you just…

Yep.

The poem.

We had the example of the…

What do I have on my list? I have your poems.

Then you have the poems?

Genau, the poems.

Yeah, this is the new one.

How long did you think about this poem?

I think you have, also I would like to have, if you could like also throw in a few gadgets here in, for example.

We get a little bit of the impression, yes, it is a digital…

Digital workplace.

Are we on-time?

OK.

For five months now, people in Hong Kong have been protesting for democracy and against what they perceive as a growing influence by the mainland government from China. As an official from Taiwan – an island which Beijing considers a “breakaway territory” – how do you view these protests?

The protests there have grown more violent in the last period of time and there’s the chance that at some point Beijing says “we’ve had enough, we’re going to intervene with force.” How do you view this?

Now you’ve started writing computer code when you were a kid; you’ve been active as a hacker, as a computer hacker; now you’re the Digital Minister of Taiwan, and you’re calling for the reinvention of democracy. How’s it supposed to look like and how do you perceive your own role in it?

But is there more to it when it comes to digital reinvention of democracy than just providing a bunch of papers for that matter?

Big tech companies have played a questionable role sometimes when it comes to democracy, being a platform where fake news can be spread, or where voters could be influenced. What sort of role do they need to play when it comes to reinventing democracy?

Taiwan is also aiming to transform its economy from a manufacturing hub towards a more digitalized economy, it’s been difficult to do that. What are the stumbling blocks, what are the roadblocks you’re encountering there?

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What was your part of it?

If you look at it more universal, is there an idea how people connect that, incorporate it on this level?

When you say direct democracy, did the digital help us? Did it help us?

These different kinds of democracies you were talking about, are they upscaled? The values might be more communal, and then but they are everywhere, in a way.

Wow. The democracies, are they still based on a market-orientated economy?

There is no price system, as we know it, in a way? There is not this thing, people make prices and compete. There’s less competition. It’s not competition-oriented.

This Serenity from Ethereum. It came out in 2020. Was that part of the solution?

Wow.

Very convincing.

The question is, what Thailand can learn from your technology, and what collaborations do you expect to have in the future?

You mentioned educational institutions like Chulalongkorn can enable people in the future to fully participate in social innovation?

OK. Do you think that formal education would get less important in the future?

All right, thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Should we start?