Thank you so much. Should we start?

That was wonderful, thank you very much. Really appreciate it.

Thank you. Is there anything else that you wanted to say at this time?

Specifically, how do you think different countries, provinces, or cities can work together across their jurisdictions?

Last question for you. Can you talk a little bit about why it might be important for open government and social innovation movements to work together across jurisdictions and what that might look like?

Rather than just automating processes that already exist, making things happen in a different way, in an innovative way. Taking new approaches to old problems.

Adding on to that, can you talk about how people that might see digital government and social innovation, instead of just automating the processes and automating the same steps, how you’re forced to reevaluate the question and make sure that you’re actually answering and innovating in new ways?

If there were people who saw social innovation and digital government as two different movements, if those groups weren’t connected, what might you have to say to some of those people?

What are some of the things that you’ve seen in the government of Canada that connect to your work? Could you comment a little bit, maybe, on the digital enablement unit specifically, as well as anything else that comes to mind?

What do you think are some things that we might be able to do together in the next six months? What are the smaller things that you hope for in the short term?

You’ve heard a little bit about the unit, the digital enablement unit of the government of Canada. Can you talk a little bit about how, why the work of the digital enablement unit might be important?

What might you say to a civil servant in another country, like Canada, about their work, and how it fits into your experiment?

If someone were very stressed out and worried, what are the kind of problems that you hope this would solve, or why is it the most important thing for us to focus on?

Why does this work really matter? If you were explaining it to someone you just met in the street, what’s important to know?

What’s the change that you’re hoping to see?

OK, cool. Can you tell us a bit about the digital government movement in Taiwan, and some of the ideas behind that?

OK.

I’m expecting to work with you.

I’m going to work that through the pathway of the university. I think that was a good idea. I’m trying to invite Kel and his wife back to set some fires everywhere.

Kel has been talking with me about his idea to have VR festival here.

Oh, OK.

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Yeah.

Yeah, but try to rebuild it online.

You two together, sitting together, have a very relaxing conversation.

Yeah. That’s right.

My second thought is that, I really enjoy your relaxing conversation. Is it possible for you to have a similar occasion to be on the Google things you did just a few weeks ago, and talking about the VR and try to open the eyes for those in audience who ...

Because we are trying to set up a virtual college on digital arts in Chengchi University.

Is it possible...? After our workshop next week, I’m thinking to extend similar meaningful programs for the young students here, so if there’s a possibility I might come and listen to it, to follow, to try to maximize.

Makes sense.

Is it possible you teach again?

What was that occasion? Are you still teaching now as a minister?

Though I couldn’t fully follow your conversation it has been so interesting. There are a few things coming into my mind. I have a question for Audrey. You just mentioned that you taught in Kaohsiung and Hangzhou.

But Kel is going to have video shot during this trip, right?

I was asking...