With that glass as well.
Yeah.
Do you have an example of a…?
Was it not just a five-minute interview on NDW?
I have seen that there…
One in which you have like really outdone yourself..
[laughs] Do you have an example, from like you ministry, which really went trending because it wasn’t so funny?
So quite a fast process. I didn’t have the imagine that it could change so fast, that people would change so fast.
Also, the people already are more educated, and they…
Do you think it has already changed a lot during the…?
Is it one year ago, two years ago, or when did Taiwan start?
I can say it.
You know, this whole humor thing and there’s humor against like, I can say, against like fake news, disinformation.
When did Taiwan start this whole…?
So, it’s catchy, or…?
Why has it to be humorous?
…done by people who volunteer?
…the government. It can be…
In the end, that’s the main tool is fact checking. The fact checking can be done partly by…
It’s disinformation then?
Fake news is?
It’s the same word?
In…
In general, it is a problem of fake news and mal-information, disinformation from China. What can you do against it?
How does that happen?
Why?
Is it a big problem or a not-so-big problem?
But everyone say that China is trying to interfere in the social media, Taiwan, it’s maybe about the elections, the general one. What of your people?
Do you have an example what’s the post which trended the most?
This was also one that already trended?
Through this whole fact-checking work, how many cases are your people or the people in the other ministry dealing with when it comes to China and Taiwan? It is a lot?
For example, this one got 160 shares.
For example, such kind of a message, did this get to the people, to the Taiwanese?
What’s the message behind it?
What’s for you the difference between disinformation and mal-information?
For the Taiwanese…
Is there something that it can do to hold that propaganda and re-target it, let’s say, for the Taiwanese market and China?
Are there also such trolling farms when it comes to questions concerning Hong Kong?
How big is, in general, trolling a problem in Taiwan, especially when it’s concerned to China and foreign countries?
When it comes to fake news, this is one of the main tools you have, or are there other tools?
They’re doing it themselves?
Do you also have another example, for example, something which is also connected to the elections?
How many people are doing this for you? I read somewhere five people.
Yeah, the hair thing, the whole thing, maybe your whole lines in the beginning to have a bit of close-ups and everything.
The hair scene.
I’ll just make a note.
We are doing it afterwards or shall we already do it?
Can we also have a closer look at this piece?