我想任何做開放政府的人，最後的目標是希望民間社會跟政府是互信的情況，也就是說，trust是最稀少的資源。所以我們做transparency、accountability、inclusion都是
there is this idea called “swift trust” on the Internet. If I perceive there are people on the other
當然。老子有句話，它叫「信不足焉，有不信焉」，就是 to give no trust is to get no trust，所以如果你不信任人民的話，人民當然也不會信任你，如果你覺得說這個人民
the mutual trust that is existing in the society, on the actor level, when you pick up the phone
現在疫情之後，大家開始真的比較習慣這樣的事情，但是仍然並不是一蹴可及，像資安的防護，我一進行政院就自己架 zero trust 的資安系統而不用任何別的東西，非常謝謝 DEVCORE 有做資安
. The before part, which is helped by… There’s a slide that talks about the SMS, the trusted SMS
having assistance, if you trust your agent, that agent can act on you and then like I can send my
be at home. To give no trust is to get no trust.
as essentially security products that will let people still retain a sense of trust, a fabric of trust online.
of debunker, that that actually increases distrust rather than trust. And so if you just wouldn’t mind
on about, you know, whether people actually trust mmoda to hold Facebook or made our TikTok account
will trust it, because you know what it is. [laughs]But we have also seen another kind of people
this: sometimes the NGO moves too slow, because they don’t trust strangers.
我說壞人給別人做，就是你有做十個trusted partner，他們負責幫忙reject人，但是你只要進入其中一個就可以。
, so a reasonably sized office. This is our core values. Rebuild trust is the core. Then, empowering
to have, which should be inspired by an open approach to engender their trust. As you say, if nobody
don’t have the luxury of this building trust across generation worldview. What I’m saying
包含以後的機器對機器，回來這個最大的問題還是資安的問題，機器對機器的identity已經不是人了，你怎麼樣去知道這個系統如何能trust？
. When we use helicopter and so on, it’s very expensive, and also it takes trust out of GPs
to trust their neighbors’ numbers more than the government’s numbers. [laughs]
