I put on the virtual reality glass in 2016. I immediately opened the star chart and held the Earth like between my hands, and I had this overview effect happening to me. It looks like a very brittle, small thing and suddenly borders no longer matter, because you cannot see borders from space. And so, I think digital technology is essential. Without digital technology, it’s impossible to have an accurate whole of planet social object that people can interact with in real time. So, that’s the first thing and second, we need to make sure there is meaningful impact. Otherwise, it’s just like watching a movie. Whatever you do from the audience, see the movie doesn’t change, right? And so, there’s no democracy. We are all just watching the Google Earth movie, right? So there needs to be some impact.

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