Of course I agree. Which is why we have built a chat bot representing a river. A river is a kind of spirit that lives longer than humans, and it is more than humans. One of the most human more than humans that we know. And Yukiko asks, “Can you explain my thoughts and how to realize it?” Yes, certainly, I think, first of all it’s important to realize how important digital technology is to the awareness of the climate extinction, the climate crisis. We now have satellite technology that can count the number of trees that were being cut almost in real time, like five times a day. And so only with that kind of technology can we visualize the Earth and its ecosystem for climate as a single social object. Previously it was blocked by the clouds. People cannot imagine that this is like the first time.

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