Okay. Thank you very much.

But in Asia, the peak might come a little bit later?

Do you still feel that 2024 is the peak polarization?

My last question. You have left the cabinet for quite some time, and have advocated for this plurality, this importance, and you already said there are examples of these ideas going into the government, going into the law, but do you see… It appears… that the pace of the transformation ...

And, you know, a reporter is asking like hundreds of thousands of people their opinion… it’s like… so we should also use AI.

I wonder… an example of the bridging narrative on issues like foreign people coming into Japan, which was a big topic in the Japanese election. So we tend to just debunk those claims, you know, foreign crimes are not that high, they’re not coming into Japan, they’re not invading Japan ...

Currently, actually, Japanese media, including Asian media, is criticized for being too balanced. Like we see the political spectrum and we horizontally line up Policy A, Policy B, Policy C, Policy D… and that’s sort of being baited by conspiracy parties because they are one of the 50 policies and ...

And that’s possible, you know, using the tactic you talked about earlier on AI…

I think you also mentioned the lack of narratives on the technology side, engineer side. Would you elaborate more? What sort of people do you need in a team to offer narratives?

But, so, I have never done coding. I have never done programming. So when we see tech engineers now turned politicians saying that they should do more open source policy making and there’s more to talk to people. I don’t think sort of the majority, or more than the majority ...

What would working with the people look like specifically? When Anno-san has his own party, do you mean that people should be joining the party or it’s more like saying he should have more conversation with people, which I think he does.

I also wanted to ask about the current trend of tech engineers trying to design more social systems, the extreme example being Elon Musk and a more moderate example being Anno-san in Japan. Do you see, respectively, limits of those sort of 100% engineers going into social systems, trying to ...

Yeah, so we also have to, you know, re-skill ourselves. It is interesting because this is the first time I’ve heard “read the air” coming on an AI topic. You know, Western engineers and companies, I think they are more sort of Western-based culture, technology, and I think it’s rare ...

To survive.

Just a quick question. How optimistic are you in the industry forecasting that AGI would be just around the corner? This year, next year, two or three years, that sort of…

How optimistic are you in realizing those visions?

Do you think the current AI development is going for that approach? Or do we have some sort of a long way to go? Or currently the tech companies are dominating?

So the community gives them reward, this is good evolution, this is valuable.

So in your view, AI, transformer technology doesn’t have the limitations of sort of realizing plurality if it worked closely with a community of humans?

I think this also covers what you already talked with regarding AI, and especially AGI. So some of them and all those other people are going for AGI, and they say, you know, in the AI 2027 logic, AGI will be one of the sort of structures in the government ...

Do we have also challenges, especially in here?

Do you think Asian nations—you know, Southeast Asia, Japan, Taiwan, and Hong Kong as well—have sort of like special challenges or opportunities regarding this, you know, more choice, more plurality on the digital platform?

How do you think this would spread quickly? Would you see a more optimistic view? I think you said in one of the podcasts of the peak of the polarization…

Do you think, sort of, the current level of polarization because of the social problem will decrease from now on?

Wouldn’t that fundamentally challenge, sort of, the financial background of X, for example? And would that continue that trend?

But we have seen many places of alleged AI quietly looking to Elon Mus for, essentially, a platform… How can we…

So the first community note might come from AI, and that might be connected to the original developer’s ideal, but then it will be amended by the community, and that would make it more democratic?

Do you think this broad listening is on its way to scaling? We’ve seen only a few examples of these platforms that will implement it.

What I’m going to ask is the kind of thing you already said in the book, but what sort of technology do you think could remedy these situations where algorithms go for more like one policy, one team, and not Plurality?

I would like to start with asking about the recent Japanese upper house election, which had—or let’s say, right-wing conspiracy parties getting a big surge in popularity. They went from two seats to, I think it was 14. And that was mainly—we talked to some of the supporters of the ...

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