My aim mostly is just to find out why people would trust other so easily over the Internet, but also why such trusts are easily abused, and is there a better mechanism design that can make people feel more safe for Internet communications, even though the early Internet pioneers didn’t design this kind of trust context into the basic protocols.
Also, the Taiwan Water Corporation have to trust across the sectors for the people versed in machine learning to come and help alleviate their problems and solve their challenges. It’s more trust all around. The longer this kind of collaboration goes, the better the trust gets from people from all the different sides of the Pacific, and things like that.
Previously, it’s difficult to give trust when all you have is a broadcasting radio microphone. I imagine about how you can trust someone that only listens when they were have a way to give their voice back.
How should we trust what they are saying now? You didn’t have that problem because even before the pandemic, even before COVID, there was a trust between the government and the people. How did you build that?
Yes, as the public service, we move at the speed of trust . If the government doesn’t trust the people, we will have no mandate, no will from the people, to move us forward democratically as a polity.
What is currently blocking, in a sense, is that whether this kind of multi-stakeholder governance model can actually engender something that’s increased trust over time, instead of the increased trust over time until the next election.
This is what we call radically trusting the civil society. We trust the people who complain actually have something to contribute even without any supporting evidence at the beginning. They actually are people who have something to contribute.
Interesting. You have been establishing your regulations for this PO network. You have done many good things. What are the biggest challenges? You mentioned trust , but how? Can you mention more details about how to build a trust ?
They understand that the trust in governmental institutions that year was below 10%. So, like anything the core public service says, the people don’t believe. And to win back the trust , they need radical transparency, they need open government and so on. So, we were in the cabinet, but to work as a bridge to rebuild the trust , so to speak.
Not necessarily. It will lead to more trust between citizens. Like we are actually of a polity, that there’s less room for divisiveness to grow. Once you work together on a subject, there’s no easy way for propaganda and information operation to influence you on that particular issue. It’s mutual trust , it’s not about just trusting the government.
This applies, of course, to semiconductors. If you’re doing any advanced AI or indeed any advanced computation, you probably already trust TSMC and its supply chain. Its cybersecurity is safeguarded by the SEMI E187 standard that we worked with the semiconductor supply chain people to introduce zero trust architecture to their supply chain so that the entire supply chain is more trustworthy .
Whether it is foreign information manipulation interference, or cyberattacks, or the coronavirus, or adversarial generative AI, I think the idea is not to achieve a point of existence, but rather to have this mutual trust , the fabric of trust between government, the civil society and the industry, so that on each incoming challenge, we trust each other enough to solve this issue together.
Rather, they’re interested in researching about swift trust . About how people come to trust each other so quickly on the Internet, and lose that trust equally quickly. I’m interested in that, too. That means that I’m like a researcher but more junior, [laughs] and they’re also a researcher but more senior. There’s less teaching, but more learning together.
As a practitioner of Taoist thoughts, I would like to leave you with one core message: To give no trust is to get no trust . Democracies need to move from vertical control to horizontal co‑creation, strengthening civic care.
If they distrust the government, the government says it’s not true makes people distrust the government more. What’s important here is the government need to trust the citizen and trust the citizen with a sense of humor.
That leads to what we call "swift trust ," meaning a quick trusting of strangers, just because you share the same keywords or the same the meme, or wear the same badge, whatever. That leads to a sense of empowerment.
我的成果是分享臺灣的經驗，也就是如何建立能 抵抗極化、激進化和威權主義敘事 （「民主只會導致混亂與分裂」），促進 橫向信任 （horizontal trust ）的公民基礎設施，傳播在資訊、網路和社會各領域中跨越分歧的同理心訊息。
最後的最後，有沒有什麼你覺得在這個時代，因為我們的好朋友程世嘉寫了一本書，《AI 世界的底層邏輯與生存法則》。你作為數發部第一任部長，現在又是最懂 AI 的無任所大使，也代表 Team Taiwan 在世界各地，希望大家加入我們的這個 Trusted 信賴圈。
In a liberal democratic society, it should always be that a state initiates this trust .
Is this the same thing as this similar or a human equivalent of zero trust ?
