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2024-03-19 Conversation with OpenAI

  • James Hairston

    Hello? Hi, how are you today?

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  • Audrey Tang

    Pretty good, long time no see.

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  • James Hairston

    I know, I know, really great to see you, and introducing my colleague, Sandy, who will be leading our work in Asia moving forward. She’ll be based in Singapore, so just wanted to also introduce the two of you one-to-one on this call as well.

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  • Sandy Kunvatanagarn

    It’s a pleasure to meet you.

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  • Audrey Tang

    We’re in the same time zone then.

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  • Sandy Kunvatanagarn

    Yes.

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  • James Hairston

    [Redacted]

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  • Audrey Tang

    Of course.

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  • James Hairston

    So we wanted to reach out and follow up, you know, in our last conversations, promise to just sort of come to you and give you a preview of sort of major announcements and capabilities, and so we have a new feature and pilot sort of launching this week that we just wanted to talk you through here quickly today and get any feedback and just open up the lines of communication sort of going forward.

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  • James Hairston

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  • Audrey Tang

    Great. So does this work in real time?

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    [Redacted]

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  • Audrey Tang

    Because the adversarial case is different. Will there be a sort of Content ID?

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  • James Hairston

    [Redacted] But again, we’ll double-check on sort of all of the mitigations and come back to you there as well.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Does this policy not create a case where it advantages incumbents in an election?

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  • James Hairston

    [Redacted]

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  • Audrey Tang

    You already do that for DALL·E 3. The C2PA is also compatible, just to flag that.

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    [Redacted]

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  • Audrey Tang

    Are there going to be a similar process around this, when you do a stepwise release of Sora?

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  • Audrey Tang

    I mean, there’s already, you know, Stable Video Diffusion. And so with that capability, and just as for your reference, tomorrow we’re going to the parliament to discuss a new amendment for a digital signature act.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Coupled with the new anti-fraud act, the upshot is that for advertisement, which is about freedom of reach, not freedom of speech, we are going to require that any advertisement — not just political ones — instead of relying on watermarking and/or detection, which is fragile, we’re going to flip the default and say that they would require a valid digital signature to be posted.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Of course, we’re going to work with interoperability with other countries. But the upshot is that if somebody impersonates 1,000 different public figures, we will have a way for the KYC process, for the advertiser, it could be YouTube or Meta, to know that it’s actually pointing to the same natural person. Of course, we can enhance its privacy profile with zero-knowledge techniques.

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  • Audrey Tang

    And I think the sooner we flip to a digital signature required, everything else is assumed to be a robot, the better. Because otherwise, we’re just playing whack-a-mole.

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  • Audrey Tang

    I mean, if watermark works perfectly, we don’t need this. But in a world where watermarks are defeated by open weights models regularly, we need a second line of defense.

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  • James Hairston

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  • Audrey Tang

    Great. And I believe we will meet with other OpenAI teams soon to get an update from other angles.

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  • James Hairston

    Really glad that your teams will be catching up with other OpenAI teams soon.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Great. Anything from Sandy? Sorry that we’ve been hogging all the conversation.

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  • Sandy Kunvatanagarn

    Okay. No, no. It’s a pleasure to meet you. And I love working together as I’m getting up to speed on the role.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Excellent. I’m just always an email away. All right. Thank you.

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  • James Hairston

    Well, thank you. We’ll be in touch soon. Yeah, we really appreciate your time and all of this great input. We’re really grateful.

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  • Audrey Tang

    Okay. Awesome. Well, see you next time then. Live long and prosper.

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  • James Hairston

    You too. Bye bye.

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  • Sandy Kunvatanagarn

    Bye bye.

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