
Well, I mean, whether it is a hamster wheel that serves the command key or whether it's a hamster wheel that serves the control key, I think these are fundamentally about the lack of option, the lack of escape, which are also keys I'm looking at on my keyboard. So the command and the control impulses that people strongly associate tech to is, I think, really a philosophical lack of imagination. People can only imagine two ways for technology to operate. One is called a utilitarian way, which is to maximize some number. And the deontic way, which is to follow some command, follow some rule. And nothing else, right? And people are like, oh, we should put the brakes, stop AI, follow some rules. Oh no, we should accelerate, maximize this number. But if there's a car with only the gas and the brake, the car is not going anywhere. Well, maybe falling off a cliff, which isn't going anywhere, by the way. The point here is the steering wheel. And instead of viewing citizens as a resource to be extracted, it, as you say, about obedience, attention, data, or whatever,