I mean let's um let's dwell a little bit on that and what's happening outside you know what is the new what are the new front lines kind of you know because we now see competing models you know control in china you know a little bit of chaos in the us and a few civic experiments you know in between i mean the chinese model shows how technology can also become an instrument of social control you know in some in some ways you've got you know the american model it's often turns into a kind of infrastructure of uh more manipulation and profit even though you know we can go back to that to see you know how it's progressing but for now this is mostly what what's happening what do these extremes reveal about the deeper relationship between technology and democracy overall you know i want to to see to understand how you look at at the big picture of that tension.