Well, at that time, I think people do want some way to solve this deeply entrenched polarization. And Taiwan, according to VDEM, was the top target for polarization attacks in the past years. So we had the most intense attack that tried to look at each of the divides in our society. It could be urban rural, it could be ethnic, it could be spiritual, it could be gender, whatever ideological differences. One side want to free China, another side want to be free from China, so on and so forth. And so the polarization attacks, paradoxically, made the Taiwanese people much more resilient. And when we came up with ways to depolarize through broad listening, everybody is collectively tired of peak polarization 10 years ago, so that they're really willing to make it a try. And then after a hundred or so times of collaborative meetings using this method, anyone with 5,000 signatures online can force a response and deliberative conversation. By 2020, the approval rating of President Tsai was over 70%. And that was the year of pandemic 2020. And we only lost seven people to the pandemic. But we did not lock down any city throughout the pandemic. Wow.