And so when they do that, the civil society organizations, there were more than 20 of them, talk about specific aspects of the trade deal. For example, people talk about Huawei and ZTE and about Trojan horses in our then-new 4G telecommunications system, and so on and so forth. And so turning that anger and anxiety into like a geothermal engine, a coherent set of ideas co-created. And so digital democracy for me was born from this peak experience of mass real-time digital listening. And after three weeks of Occupy, the head of the parliament basically said, well, the crowdsource ideas are better than ours, so let's just go with them.