Anyway, all this did not prevent the depolarizing work, because on both sides—and now with TPP, we have three parties, none of which have majority in the parliament—all three parties double down on the democratic process, open parliament, and citizen participation. It becomes a race to the top. Once the career public service knows that they have the social sector as an ally to foster this kind of work, then the political parties, the ministers, the MPs, they can compete, of course, on even more transparency, even more accountability. The ideology stopped being the stopping point to prevent the people from participating meaningfully.