- That’s correct. And that was the g0v movement, as it was known, starting to organize outside of government. Basically, every two months we would hold a physical hackathon, about 200 people or so. We meet in the National Academy. The idea is that we need to find places that are credibly neutral, that are above any party politics or any ministers—a purely social sector place. It just so happens that Taiwan has this idea of a National Academy that only reports to the president, and the president doesn’t have control over its research direction. We were able to just keep meeting there every two months for more than 10 years now.