And I think that isomorphism, that bridge, is something we need to keep in mind. What on this side of the wall works as an anti-surveillance, anti-tampering technology, on this side of the wall works then as a freedom of choice, of a pro-competition, antitrust technology. And they are exactly the same technology. And we need to make that more well-known so that our research here can be applied development here, and the other way around, too.