Around six years ago, I believe, Taiwan had a wave of populism. We had a leader, a populist leader, very famous with especially elderly people, like my aunts and uncles. And he really became not just the Kaohsiung mayor, but rather ran for president at the height of populism. But because we have very strong civic muscle that can point out if he did not work the way that the people, the population that elected him in the first place, it can also send a very clear signal by not just recalling him, but also showing where the population is actually thinking.