So, one of the ideas that Taiwan had when we had half a million people on the street and many more online in 2014 is to build this bridging consensus when it comes to whether to allow the Beijing brands like Huawei and ZTE into our then new 4G network. And we had a conversation around that during the Sunflower Movement, and we agreed that because of the lack of independent journalism, it is very difficult to find out whether those so-called private sector services have been de facto state-owned at any given point.