We had petitions— 8,000 for changing Taiwan’s time zone to UTC+9 (to show sovereignty), and 8,000 to keep UTC+8 ; it was a standoff between the two sides. We convened both and proposed dozens of ideas : instead of spending resources on time‑zone change, spend half on popularizing LGBT‑friendliness , hosting human right conferences in Taiwan, offering gold cards to open‑source contributors, etc. After exploring ideas, people saw time‑zone change wasn’t the best effect. Eliciting them in an ethics of care reveals other needs they can address together. Don’t start from a one‑bit ontological debate; start from adjacent .