My system with the career public service was entirely the opposite. I publicly said in 2016 that I entered as a servant to the public service. At the end of the day, I wanted this to be a self-driving car. I wanted the bureaucracy to be able to very clearly sense-make with the citizens, not just for the citizens. So in a sense, as a minister, I had the easiest job (well, until the pandemic). But anyway, the easiest job because I just held the space. I did not actually need to be personally aware of each individual detail going on, but I could go back to the radically transparent reports whenever I wanted to. So I think this nudge thing is a good first step. Because if we can get the nudge to be not just about a policy measure, like turning off electricity to save energy, but rather something that is like the Ice Bucket Challenge that goes viral on its own, then in a sense, the minister doesn’t have to do that much work. The minister would just hold this conceptual integrity, and then everything else, the implementation part, could be figured out by the career public service in association with civil society.