But for each particular subject, for each particular field, there exists a very strong offline connection, like the g0v community itself. For more than 12 years now, g0v meets every other month, usually in Nankang, in our national academy. That is what enables informal ties between the civil society groups to grow into stronger bonds over time. My main suggestion for the EU context is not to bypass your existing community level face to face associations and civic groups and so on, but rather tap into them so they can link laterally, horizontally.