He’s always everywhere. He’s always going about all the rooms and offers the food.

He’s always there.

I totally agree.

Yeah.

There’s one there tomorrow.

Yeah.

It was just two years ago we were here.

Tseng.

Sure.

And Taiwanese.

Yeah, she did a presentation in Madrid a few weeks back.

Approach.

Yeah.

Yu-Shan.

Phil?

We can open a window.

All right.

[laughs]

Chihao also?

Yeah. Yes, it’s definitely like that. It’s a Taiwanese craft site. People make craft and sell.

Bye.

I’ll dismiss myself.

Thank you so much.

...updated also.

We’re going to do some experiment on that.

I remember you mentioned maybe some suggestions you want to send to pol.is team, and if that’s the case, I would probably do that, as well.

Yeah, I’ll try my best to be part of this interesting long conversation. [laughs]

No. I am not coming this year. I am coming to New York in a couple months.

We can answer in email or we can even arrange another call.

I’ll try to read more. Maybe, soon I would try to arrange another call with you to ask you more questions.

Yes. Thank you so much for your time. It seems really a good conversation.

A lot to play with. [laughs]

Those questions they gather I think will be useful to input to their algorithm in the end.

What I know is they only look at the comments. They also try to figure out the persona behind those comments. Now they’re sliding in some questions when people vote. Not only their 20 comments they can vote, but also, there’ll be some questions asking what gender you are, what ...

We can plan more on that in our work, I think.

That’s more inclusiveness. They’ll be trying to figure out the controversial comments.

Right.

There’s always open mind. I’m not sure. I think they thought about it. There’s some behind vision or behind ideal conversation they want to achieve. In order to do that, I do think intensively about what comments comes first.

The comments which is, for example, created by people who voted more, the comments which is a new comment, for example, and maybe the comment that has a more imbalanced voting is either very controversial, maybe many people agree with that and many people disagree with that will be also ...

There’s some priorities that comes into turns. The pol.is team don’t push all the new comments to the first 20 to users. There are some priorities.

That’s important. I think they changed it throughout the past few months. I can for sure check with the developers there. The statistics shows most people vote for 20 comments before stopping. Only people very interested will vote for more than 20. It’s very important to know what are their ...

When they tend to want to write, they tend to write a comment that is more neutral and try to get agreement with both sides. I think that’s a very beautiful user scenario. When they were in the beginning, four different groups on the pol.is visualization and then merged to ...

It’s probably because in the interface they don’t have much to read about. They probably will go through their social media and so on. They could actually go through all the different comments and try to think of their comments. Maybe because all the materials they are looking at is ...

You can see many comments like that. You can see two very controversial groups from taxi drivers or pro-Uber or against Uber. You’ll see some people who come up and try to merge this two-sides comment into one comment, which is more neutral in a way and try to get ...

That exactly happens in Uber’s case. It’s very obviously...

We observed some users’ behavior. When they use pol.is they tend to rewrite comments in their own way. I think that would be one example to think of collective intelligence. Of course, it’s not really designed. They don’t have to rewrite other people’s comment.

Yeah. You’re very right. [laughs]

In a sense.

Yeah, I think it’s important to figure out how people work together, especially collaboratives, and especially in online space, because we don’t always live in the same place. [laughs]

Thank you, yeah. I will tell the sense.tw team. They do have pros and cons but what I think is very valuable is about collaboratively coming up with the shared notes around this issue.