What’s happening to it now?

TAF, right?

I’ve only seen the sign.

...startup stadium, but they’re sort of individual and separated.

This is the imagery of this sort of startup. This is all familiar stuff to you. I just wanted to say Berlin, London. This is London and Silicon Valley. There’s so much activity out there, these hubs, and I don’t really see it happening here. I know...

They’re under attack in Hong Kong, where there was supposed to be 50 years of freedom. It’s not. They’re lying.

Was this a new article?

This is so cool, that they’re opting out of Hong Kong, and the fact that a lot of Hong Kong people are immigrating here to get away from the oppression of the Mainland. I’m not anti‑China, but I think Taiwan is a special place for its tolerance and freedoms.

Yeah. I would like to let you take a look at that. There’s other information I’d like to talk about. One is...You saw this, right?

Yeah, but if they’re president of the United States, it doesn’t really matter, right? They don’t need to extra credit.

I guess...

Yes.

No, they propose all the time, but they don’t...

It was your idea, but they get the credit for it. [laughs]

Why is it sort of broken out like that?

This is the idea, "Taiwan Trending." Fast‑moving, music, skateboarding.

It’s in the works, so how would I apply for...I don’t think the government’s just going to hand over money of that kind to a project like that.

We think it could be very colorful, including surfing in Wi‑Ho, or all the other benefits of a cool place to stop.

I’ve estimated with my director one to three million for a 10‑minute documentary about this very subject.

I see. As a producer, to me, you put together a visual, a media campaign or such, whether it’s a documentary or a commercial, things like that. I’m not sure if it’s just that bump up to the level of actually raising money for it and things like that, because ...

Kind of streamlined...

"...and I could be here for a while."

"What’s the laws like?" "Oh, you can get your landing visa, the 90‑day landing visa." They may not ask the next question. "Well, what if I..." I guess that would..."

How will they know about this, though? They’re working in Chiang Mai, and they’re sort of bopping around. Obviously, they’re well‑read, and they’re online, and they’ve done a lot of stuff, but, "Oh, let’s go to Taiwan."

It sounds good.

You get health care, and you get...

They’re welcome here.

Yes, right.

They’re not software engineers, necessarily.

I think there’s separation. The digital nomad is not the Silicon Valley professional, right?

I’m actually thinking about this global community, because you want to attract global talent, right?

...Nobel prize.

Sure. That’s pretty standard. Most countries attract...Anybody who’s got that certain level...

...patents, or papers.

Oh, I see.

I’m not sure what that is, like H‑1B or something?

What if you wanted to be established here? What if you wanted to stay longer‑term, or at least have some flexibility with that, and want health care and things like that? What if you wanted to pay into taxes? What if you wanted to be part of that system? It’s ...

It’ll be interesting to see what they...

I don’t know. I’m...OK.

But you’re still working.

I don’t know. You’re working in a place you don’t have official work status.

...but it’s significant, and if you want to bring young talent here...

They’ve got clients everywhere, and they’re always hustling for new clients. This is the new economic order, part of it anyway. It’s not the future of all of us, doing...

I’m saying there’s a whole population of young people out there, digital nomads, and this is a growing phenomena, which I know you are aware of that. They’re super smart, hungry, educated, and they’re doing all kinds of stuff, whether it’s online editing, online education, this, this, this, Web development, ...

Yeah. It’s illegal.

What if you’re actually making income?

That’s for purchasing, though. It’s not...

...e‑commerce...

There’s a billion people online...

Targeting the world. That’s what...