That’s what I like you to do is engage me all the time. OK?

OK?

As long as you get my blood going, I’m with you.

That’s what I want you to do. I want you to overemphasize as we continue. Just go crazy with it. I’ll tell you when it’s wrong, or when it’s really good. I have to tell you, I thought that was very good. Me being able to listen attentively. Here’s how ...

Yes. It’s more pleasurable to listen to when you’re going up and, look watch my hand, when you’re going up and down, when you’re fluctuating in your voice. I feel like you were overdoing it, which is fine. That’s where I want you to begin. Overdoing is a very good ...

You’re wrong.

I could tell. Did it feel convincing?

[laughs]

How unnatural did that feel to you?

Give me a quick, use some vocal modulation, convey some tone, and tell me a sentence or two what they did before, and what’s happening now. Let me hear.

[laughs] For a bureaucrat, maybe getting somebody to read their fucking, boring transcript is like a rock star, right?

Collaboration, right. It actually matters to them now, and they find that they’re engagement. They’re more popular. They’re more alive in their job.

Exactly. Before when ministers would lobby, they would just send back a pro forma response that was so boring no one could even read it. Now, that the participation officers, they see that their words actually have meaning, that it’s no longer a culture of blame, but a culture of ...

There you go. One more time.

More emphatic please.

Yeah.

How about important?

[laughs] OK. You don’t have to cry. [laughs]

Cute. Sad. Can you be sad with cheese sandwich?

Happier.

Thank you. Happy.

Anger, more angry.

Anger.

Cheese sandwich.

Only want you to use those two words. I’m going to call out an emotion, and I want you to convey that emotion. This is not what you do naturally in English. I’m going to ask you to really convey emotion through words, just through the tone of your voice.

You could have picked ham sandwich. You could make it a pork bun. I don’t care. You can do whatever you want with it. OK?

The next part, now we’re going to pick two words. I just picked cheese sandwich. OK?

You can play with this. The content of your cake is there. This is the icing that really draws the listener in to pay attention. Because you’re on a screen, it’s more challenging. It’s just harder. Let’s play a little with tone in English. OK?

Exactly. I like the way you did it first much more by the way. It was much more you. The point of this is just to get natural. This is not going to happen in a minute. It’s not going to happen in a week. It may not happen by ...

That’s staccato. Let me hear you.

We. must. do. this. now.

Exactly. Now do it really different. Now I want you to try something else, a staccato.

Use your body. Do it. Repeat the last sentence, the very last one.

It’s much more compelling than just here’s my face on a screen. Right? [laughs] This way I just look like one of those bureaucrats. You have this voice, and you have this body. You’re very limited by, you have this much space. OK?

Show me big. It’s hard to do big on a small frame. Yeah, big. When you do that, you become much more alive. You can’t see, but I’m doing it for you now.

Exactly.

Show me less, even smaller. Very little.

Show me little. Little.

It’s a little lamb. You can use your hands really effectively, like it was a little lamb. Show me a little lamb. Show me little.

Good. Also, I want to know if you can hear and feel the difference, by the way. When you’re talking on a screen, also, I can’t see myself. Can you see me full screen?

Can you hear the difference?

Exactly. That’s really a difference for you. When you emphasize words like that, does it sound very unnatural to you?

I think you meant that as a question. If that’s the word you’re going to use, I was wondering if you’d like to maybe come in today? Sometimes, you know, it’s not only doing it loud. You could also do it soft. You can do other things with that incredible ...

[laughs] That didn’t sound quite right.

Do the next one, please. The is a very American English sentence. It’s terrible, terrible.

It was a little half-hearted may. Could you do it with a little more conviction, please?

Was it may?

Every word, depending on the meaning you want to be emphasized to a different effect. Let’s do the next one.

Exactly. Every word is important, if you see what I’m saying, OK?

Exactly. By the way, I want you to try it again, but pick the least important word that you think cannot...We all tend to pick the word that we think is important. Now pick a word that you think is not important. Just go.