Exactly, yes. Common experience that needs everyone’s participation that then leads to common knowledge and common belief. When I worked with people in Palo Alto during 2008 to 2016, for eight years, they have a Gordon Biersch, at a restaurant there and we have one in Taipei and we arrange the same time to go to respective TV- or to take out and they even send me Napa Valley, Red wine, like not expensive, a very cheap wine, but they do drink it. And then we arrange a video conferencing where we don’t work, but just drink the same wine and have the same Gordon Biersch food. And this kind of common experience then creates common knowledge, empathy, that can sustain community.

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