So, the DIA team, before they repurposed DIA for this purpose, they actually already were part of the Open Government Partnership, and we had met, like, the ProZorro system and so on. That was just all before the illegal and brutal Russian invasion. So, there were already some connections, as you mentioned, between the civic tech community in Taiwan and the people in Ukraine, and that connection, of course, deepened once that we noticed that we face very similar threats, especially on the network resilience space.

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