Anyway, so, I think now with that as a template and with this March as another failed attempt, on the foreign part, now I think we know much more about how they think now in a coordinated fashion. Again, the main idea is for them to decimate trust in democratic institutions, but it is no longer about a very quick win, so to speak, but rather something more like nudging, more like a long-term atrophy of democratic agency.

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