So when we talk about polarization, when we talk about political apathy, when we talk about hate speech, we had all that in 2014. So that was at the peak of the public distrust to the government. And so, I always stressed that I’m not working for the government, I’m working with the government. And I’m not working for the people, but rather with the people. I’m in a Lagrangian point between the government and movements on both sides.

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