It almost changed overnight with the Ukraine situation. It used to be that we had to sort… I was once in an open government partnership meeting before the Ukraine situation and I was representing Taiwan as a civil society organization, Taiwan as a CSO. And there are many contortions like the TPKM jurisdictions, separate custom territory, “country/area”, you name it. But now, after the Ukrainian situation, it’s very easy. We’re just democracies in the Summit for Democracy. We’re just partners in the Declaration for the Future of the Internet.

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