I believe it is when we actually invited the people who occupied the parliament peacefully, I must add that, peacefully, into the cabinet as reverse mentors, right? So, I was one of the civic technologist who helped the facilitators in the occupied Parliament. But when we received invitation first to attend a national trade and economic forum, where the consensus was that we need to move the Occupy conversation online, so that the parliament doesn’t get occupied all the time where there’s a controversial international issue. Then, we get invited like personally by cabinet members. So, the office that I am in, which belong to Minister Jaclyn Tsai, I was here also in 2014-2015, as her reverse mentor, a young intern of sorts, working on the crowd-sourced agenda setting and regulation meeting. It was not until 2016 when I got, I guess, promoted from a part time intern to a full time Minister still working on the same things. But it does show that the Cabinet members are willing to get the agenda from the people who are more digital natives, who are more connected to the citizens. And to me that means trusting the people, because you’re yielding your most important power, which is agenda setting power to the people.

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