Even if people have different positions, we ask people, "Are there common values after all?" If people have common values after all, then we make sure that we use sandboxes and other means for other people to see, for the first hand, what exactly is it like, for example, to have self-driving vehicles tour around Taiwan, bringing the rural and indigenous places access to all the 12 ministries in the Social Innovation Lab. This is maybe in Hualien, and this is actually in Hualien. [laughs]

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