Well, what works consistently in Taiwan is to treat those screens as something to be shared. So I think most schools in Taiwan ban small screens. And they use only large screens. But we ensure there's one screen per child that they can share with their classmates and teachers. So it could be a large tablet. It could be a laptop. But the point is that screens are meant for sharing, not addiction. I personally always use a large screen. I turn it grayscale most of the time if it's a touchscreen, so I don't get addicted. Or I use a stylus or voice or keyboard. So to me, I can always put it down. And most of the time, I don't need my phone, actually. I've been walking around without my phone. I don't feel a need to carry it around. And the point here is that once people see a screen as something to be shared, something social, then they expect the applications on screen. To foster the relational health between those two people. Maybe it's a translation service. Maybe it's a game that they can innovate together. Maybe it's your drawing or whatever. But there's no hamster wheel anymore if you are sharing the screen with your child, with your classmates.