Yeah, and what could come out of this? Yeah, we have no idea, basically. New ways of organizing, new ways of... Yeah, okay, interesting. Anyway, I'll put all the resources on the website for people to go deeper. You're now building a broader movement around these ideas. Plural technology radical exchange and you even like I read that you were collaborating with Governor Newsom also in California on some topics so you all run the place as you said you travel a lot, how do you see your mission today.