Well, yes, I think unless there is an acute harm that is felt by the people. And for many, the pandemic was that acute harm that forced a rethink of how the old system, which works, as I mentioned, in a number of years and at most in quarters, how they can or really cannot respond to a virus that literally mutates in the matter of days, right? So the mismatch between the speed of the threat and the speed of the response system forces everything in many countries. Japan, for example, did not have a digital ministry or a digital agency. But during the pandemic, everybody was like, oh, Taiwan can rationing out masks in really record speed, can do contact tracing without any privacy infringement, can do efficient allocation of vaccination, and also humor over rumor so there's not even a anti-vax fight. And the Japanese people are like, okay, let's have a digital agency so that in the future, if the pandemic hits again, we can have that sort of rapid response.