So, I think it's not that the Frontier Labs do not know of these approaches. It is just that the policymakers now need to understand that this is not science fiction. This is something that each lab in their research capacity have already done quite a few iterations of this loop. And so now the policymakers ask must be to make this the baseline. If the AI product is not attentive, then it's broken. If an AI product is not responsive, then it's broken. And if the entire ecosystem of AI agents do not work in solidarity, but rather are engaged in a kind of race to destroy each other, then that's not the best idea, right? So, to have symbiosis and solidarity as the bedrock of our tech policy, I think this is also very important. And so I think it's great that we have this podcast. And it's great that we have this microsite that can refer the policymakers, the engineers, researchers, and people who are affected by AI into this shared vocabulary that is at once philosophy, but also policy and engineering.