So that created a diplomatic precedent that we then keep referring to, and that enable a lot more participation. So, I think co-presence is about looking at who might be missing from the table, systematically, structurally, because of some weird political or geopolitical reasons, but then finding out ways for proxies to re-present their actual needs and their actual ideas from the place of need instead of just somebody else to represent them. So, this re-presence, this co-presence, I think is very important for co-production.