So for this kind of broad listening and sensemaking, I think the smaller the polity, the easier it is to implement. To your point about Dunbar's number, pretty much any polity, if it's just 150 people, they don't have to run a sortition. They just invite everybody right to a conversation. And we do see that in many countries, like in Japan there's a long tradition of citizen assemblies, but on a hyper local level, like literally township level, and that has worked well.