Nate Hagens

So there's the technology itself, like what it does, but then kind of separate from that is the people's trust in the technology. And you said since you did it for 10 years in Taiwan, there was like a social approval because people were used to it. What's the threshold beyond which people believe this? Like, could this happen in the United States now on some issue that isn't existential, but is interesting to people and relevant to their lives?