So each community can, of course, say, for example, we talk about here the biblical "creation care." And another community may talk about "climate justice." They have very different standards. But if using open protocol, they can also do social translation between the two. So to understand, they have very concrete object-level things they can do together. And if one side cancels the other by lobbying to the big tech, then, of course, you don't have good conversation between those different communities.