But as an urban planner, I know that if you want to reach hard to reach populations, if you want to reach returning citizens, you can’t just put a policy on a website. And so, as I understand v taiwan, right, you have humans who go to taxi drivers or go to young people who might use uber and try to, try to bring in the set of people that you need in the conversation, or the folks most affected by the problem. And so I’m curious how you think about the complementary social infrastructure, right, when we have all of these technological possibilities, how we make sure that our social infrastructure also makes sure that the right set of people is at the table.

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