That’s exactly the kind of answer because that’s a sort of simple answer that non-specialist people can understand.
Sounds good. OK.
Sorry, yes.
OK.
Yeah, we’ve done that, yes.
Explain vTaiwan works with government and in a way, the process gets people to trust government and government to trust people.
Can I just have a sip of yours?
Mm-hmm. I’m recording.
Those are really great answers. I like the first bit you said was about the consensus and the process, how people understand that they have a part to play in it. Could you just say that once again? Rather than using consensus and process, just say that common people have come to understand that they have a part to play in the decision-making process.
That would just be very…
Thanks.
What you’re saying, I suppose, is that you only get binary choices in referendums.
Yeah, but just very clear-cut choices whereas what this does is provide more subtle options.
That might sort of be…
You’re fine. We may need to…
Just give us that, about being a poetician, just don’t refer to Iceland. Just talk about yourself.
Brilliant. Well done. Why is this really possible only post-Internet? Summarize why it’s only possible after the Internet. It wasn’t possible before.
That was brilliant, but the plane was still going. Sorry.
Thank you, even shorter, if you can.
What about something about the mechanism of pol.is propagating resonance through dialog rather than these tribal instincts?
Finding common ground through dialog, things that people commonly share with each other rather than reverting to the tribal instincts.
How will it be in five years’ time?
What about pol.is and vTaiwan?
What you’re saying is that young people, the expectations of young people…
What about using technology to do that? That’s not what most people in the UK would think about technology. They really wouldn’t have a clue that technology could be used in this way. They think about mobile phones.
Make their life easier.
It’s got constant momentum in a way.
This might seem like a weird thing to say but you know when we were in the joint housing thing…
Just tell Carl what you were seeing there. It’s just that we need a voice over from you to say, “We’re here at the platform we’re been discussing, and we’re just using some technology to help us do that.”
We won’t know what a PO Network is.
Are they using that to come to a conclusion?
Brilliant. Well done. Thank you. You’ve got to go anyway, haven’t you?
We’ll let you go, Audrey, because I think you have another meeting or something.
Audrey, could you just look at Carl when you’re talking, not…
No, you don’t have to start over.
The sun keeps coming in and out. It appears on your face quite a lot.
Yes, please. I think if you can sit.
I think those are good warm-ups.
That’s good. Now we’re good.
OK, can we just get an answer again, but this time, our audience won’t necessarily understand what Unix is, so…
Yes, that’s what I mean. I get it, but yeah.
To him, right?
What would you say to people who said, well, this is fine, but actually, it hasn’t had…
Yes, well, there’s two points, yes, one is fine but rare, yes. That’s one question.
Yes, it’s fine but rare, in other words, it’s restricted to a small sector, and therefore, not that relevant to most people. OK, that’s one thing.
The second thing is…Yeah, do you want to get that one first and then I’ll come in with the second?
OK. What does that say about vTaiwan, then? I mean, if it’s been going for several years now and there are a lot of people who have not heard of it?
Just back to basics with me. What about the whole thing about the fact that relatively few laws have gone through the vTaiwan process to become law? I’m playing devil’s advocate here. Does this, in a way, not mean that people are less likely to participate because it doesn’t have the legislative teeth?
OK, so what? That’s just a question that people may be thinking.
You can get Audrey to explain that. That would be quite good to hear her talking about Wikipedia.
