In particular, I want to unpack whether my intuition that CBV ends up leading to alien futures in a way that people today wouldn’t endorse actually checks out, once I have clarity on what they’re suggesting. And I’m also interested to try and grok the reason why Audrey is hopeful ...

I didn’t come into the conversation knowing about some of the technical proposals Audrey was looking at, so we couldn’t get all the way into the technical weeds, but I’ll take more of a look at her readings and if we have future conversations perhaps can get to some of ...