So, your ability to—I mean, I’m sure DNS is okay, but—

OK.

OK.

I think the need for internet development and particularly internet — the proper support for internet governance and so forth, it’s not going away, right? We don’t think so.

So, we’ve got a long-term vision.

We’re actually, thanks to the foundation, we’re building a new headquarters as well in Brisbane. So, there’ll be a substantial building that we’ll be occupying in about another two, two and a half years’ time.

Yeah, so we’re often seen as and we are the regional internet registry. And if you look at the other four regional internet registries, are mostly more focused on a technical mandate, but both because of the way APNIC was founded and I think the different needs in our region, ...

Across that whole spectrum, Switch has provided support for dozens of individuals who are receiving professional development, both in relation to the internet and in general as well. So yeah, we’re pretty busy.

So that, plus more work on small grants: the foundation runs a small grant program with about 2 million dollars a year, and training activities and other development activities. There’s a very interesting one called Switch, which is a program for diversity in engineering, particularly women, young people, different gender ...

Also, there is an infrastructure company that has several hundred gig fiber circuits centred on Guam, Guam to Singapore to Tokyo to Indonesia, Philippines, and that’s an academic network backbone to provide additional redundancy and capacity for the networking for academic and research networking around the region.

Then it was a couple of years after that, a couple of years ago, that another opportunity came along, and that’s called the Asia Pacific Internet Development Trust. This is a joint project, with WIDE project, with Jun Murai in Japan, and it’s got a large endowment which is invested ...

So, APNIC is fully member-funded, and the members generously provided support for those activities. But then, you know, the demand didn’t get less, so we decided that in order to keep expanding, we’d form this foundation.

So, we’ve always had that internet development mission as part of what we do, and you may be aware that it was about five years ago now that we established something called the APNIC Foundation, which is actually for fundraising, essentially, because all of the work that we did in ...

There are some, yeah. So, it all goes back to APNIC’s original reason for being, which was not just to be the RIR for the region, but to do that for the sake of internet development in Asia Pacific.

So, the Asia Pacific Regional IGF for the first time is in Brisbane, and APNIC is in Brisbane, of course. Would you like a bit of a briefing on APNIC?

I see. Good luck.

Interesting.

Oh, okay.

I’m actually not exactly in a position to invite you because the event is being hosted by AUDA, the Australian Domain Authority, but we know them well, and I do think that they’d be interested if you’re able to join for the opening.

I understand that the host would like to invite you for an opening address at the event, as well as I think you’re on a panel.

To Brisbane, yeah.

Okay, you can’t come in person?

And in fact, just before our meeting in Kyoto, there’s the Asia Pacific Regional IGF, and I think you’ll be participating in that already?

Yes, yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Some of us have another meeting in Kyoto, too, of course, which you probably know about, the IGF.

I don’t know if you can join us, but it’s actually our 30th birthday for APNIC, celebrating in Japan, which is quite appropriate because APNIC started in Japan. Of course, Professor Jun Murai is one of the founders, you know him well, I think. So, as one of the founders, ...

So, this bag came from one of the APNIC conferences, from APRICOT, and we have two of those conferences every year. We’ve got the next one coming up in Kyoto in September.