Wow! That was a moment of actual fear for democracy, and you told that both your parents are journalists. Have you ever had any political ambitions before all of this happened or maybe ambitions to be a journalist or anything else?

Have you before ever feared that the democracy in Taiwan is in danger?

Yes. Well, I come from literature, so, of course, it was interesting for me to think about a figure that feels so hard, the actual moment.

I loved the part and I read it in several places the fact that you were working at Socialtext when you read about the process that is gaining momentum, and you opened the companies chattel and wrote that you have to leave immediately because the…

As I wrote, I think in our first meeting, it would be great to focus on or to make sort of an arc from the Sunflower protest to your government work and emphasize, of course, during the COVID-19 and see the link between it all because it fascinates me, and ...

OK. Now, I got it all figured out. Yes, the puzzle. Great, let’s begin our first part of the conversation. I guess you got the outline.

Of course, you have Wednesdays, which is a special day.

OK. How is like your usual day routine now with the pandemic being still around?

…definitely fine by me. I was surprised, because I know that usually on Tuesday you go for a tour?