You’ve been a month before your team in Taiwan was in the 2014 Sunflower Movement.

You worked hard to develop. You say it really taken a lot of resources to develop...

How do you call that system?

Within that process, people might really disguise or didn’t want to show their real feelings, so you might have to ask them twice or more times.

May I interrupt, Minister. How do you gather peoples’ own opinion? Like you said, you didn’t listen to their suggestions, you didn’t listen to their rational opinions. You just captured their feelings or their innate tendency to a specific policy, so how do you gather information?

They’re always polarizing.

So about your program, your software. It has been developed in order to gather public opinion?

In that process, do you actually allow the netizens into listening process?

You’re actually realizing that deliberative democratic system in Taiwan, so we are very intrigued about your progress.

Minister, after meeting Dr. 張大煥, he was really interested in your philosophy. Habermas come up with democracy problems who have...I’m sure you know, because you mentioned the deliberation as a keyword. Habermas said deliberated democracy, which is the most important idea.