Why should I do this?

What about the regulators, the people who regulate key sectors like telecoms and so on? Are the regulators behind you as much as ministers?

They’ll help drive some of these through to encourage...

Do you have some strong ministerial support for the goals?

Of the 17, yeah.

Which goals are you doing really well on? Which ones do you need some help on?

Are those companies doing that voluntarily.

I agreed at that discussion last year.

I think we need to revisit this.

Has your number gone up a lot in the last...?

Do you know who is ahead of you in terms of 464? Is there somebody who has a bigger number?

If I talk to the UK people in the Office of National Statistics, they will do lots of statistics and publish them regularly, but are not sure they’re looking at the goals in relation to the statistics. Or if you talk to city mayors, there aren’t many city mayors who ...

Is this an open website? I think it is, isn’t it?

I’m not convinced the UK is using this SDG structure enough, really. That’s why asked the question about international comparisons.

Are you comparing Taiwan to other places as well now through the SDGs?

How much business buy in, is that it’s so much a business is helping you? Are they sponsoring schemes?

If you went forward two or three years, what would look really good by say 2020 or 2022? Would you see some change in the way people do things? Would there be something which was exported? What would sound really good in two or three years’ time?

I can’t imagine it’s a big budget either to do this. To me, what’s the harm? I can’t see the harm in doing it all. It’s good.

Also, there might be some tension around innovation. It could be the ministerial department has always done it a certain way, and then somebody comes up with a new way, and they say, "Woah, woah."

It also makes people think about sources of data, visualization of data... Just the data sources.

Could you overlay transport maps on this to see if cars were causing the pollution?

For transport?

For example, would the data sets for environmental measurement follow a similar geographic pattern?

Can some of these data stools ingest data from the private sector or is it public data only?

I would have thought that also is a spur between cities to get them to swap notes and compare and contrast a little bit.

For example, do city authorities get encouraged to put data into central stores that are then accessible generally in advance?

Once the winners are announced, is there a scale up opportunity, so you can take it from one area to another?

What would look good on demo data on the 21st of July? What would sound really good as a result?

If you get stuck there, let me know. I know Nik Willetts runs the TM Forum.

Who’s helping you from the TM Forum? Is it Nik Willetts?

No.

That’s a quick summary.

We’ve had some interesting discussions planned this week around 5G. I wouldn’t mind saying a little bit about that, just to understand that. I wouldn’t mind having a bit of a discussion about data and how data is opening up certainly in Europe and wouldn’t mind understanding what’s happening here ...

The fact was that we wanted to support the Smart Cities event, which, to me, is important, so bringing 22 business and five city authorities is good. I think the desire is to learn from each other. Can we see something which is new here that we can learn from? ...

I’m here till Thursday night in Taipei. We’ve got about an hour today. Is that right?

The transparency, I think it’s very good.

I can see overall it’s very useful so long as people don’t suddenly refuse to do it. [laughs]

Has anybody refused to be recorded?

Full transcript.

The transcript is a full transcript?

I think it’s a good discipline to have. It might encourage more democracy, people listen to it.