14, why?
When you dropped out of high school...
I can think of many people that would behave differently, so it’s not...
That’s pretty cool.
They liked it? They said, "Yeah, why not?"
When you started considering yourself as transgender you talked to them?
What was their view on it?
Did you talk with your parents about transgender issues?
It’s not unusual to change your name.
Because it’s more common to change your names in Chinese society. Is that right?
Is that difficult?
You applied for your change of your name when you were how old?
Is there a famous example?
Really?
That’s, of course, who I think of when I heard the name Audrey. I think of Audrey Hepburn, so I...
Then again, your English name, Audrey, is somehow more female than male.
Was he disappointed when you...?
That’s cool. That’s very cool, actually.
Compared to dragon it’s what?
Phoenix from the ashes?
Why?
Traditional name, and you changed it to Tang?
I see. What’s your...?
You changed your name?
I remember, I read somewhere that your document said you were a male, and then you registered for female when you were, I don’t know, 20‑something.
...think, "Now let’s look at things differently"?
There was no key experience or key thing that made you...
When was that that you started to feel this way or think this way? What made you feel or think this way?
Have you read Judith Butler?
What does it mean in a simple way, "It’s not gender informed"?
It’s what?
It’s both?
What does it mean for you? It’s neither male nor female, or it’s...?
You consider yourself to be transgender, right?
No?
Now, in politics?
In the hacking scene?
Did you face any kind of discrimination around this issue?
Nobody said something? It was accepted? Everybody was fine?
They have this field, like "no," "none’?
Government documents, or what kind of documents?
When you were sworn in you said you...
What does your passport say, gender‑wise?
When did you write that blog post?
I don’t know.
What I know is that you filled in female as gender when you were 20‑something in your passport or something.
