Thank you, bye-bye.

Thank you, Audrey. Bye-bye.

Thank you so much.

Whatever’s better for you. No worries.

Yeah, I’m easy. I usually go running in the morning. It’s no problem for me.

I’ll see you on the 23rd. I will speak to your team, and we organize it.

Yes. Thank you for your time.

I agree. No, it’s fantastic. When I went to the National Institute of Technology, it was like my mind blew. I wanted to stay there so much. I was like, "Oh, my god. This is the right place." I was so excited. I met lots of entrepreneurs working on 3D ...

Yeah, a lab for innovation.

Yeah.

"We have to do it in Taiwan. We have to do it in Taiwan." She’s pushing for this to happen in Taiwan. I’m happy to do that there as well. That’s where we are right now.

It will be made in Taiwan, but at the same time, being used all around the world. We will be the first team to do this. I wanted to give that opportunity to Taiwan. Mrs. Wu, she’s a very nice lady. She’s been pushing and helping us to make sure ...

Taiwan was in my mind and I was honoured to be invited by the Shin Kong Life Foundation. They sponsor the hackathon and paid for my travel to come. They were really impressed. They showed all the work to their board. They were all happy.

I didn’t want the SDGs to be just like a high level thing at the UN. How do we get young girls from Senegal, from Taipei, from all around the world, to participate in the conversation advancing the SDGs?

The next phase for me right now is to, because I’ve been working on the UN issues for over 15 years now. MDGs. I supported Kofi Annan for 3 years on climate change and adaptation. I also supported the SDGs task force and focused on engagement for marginalized communities.

Then I decided to use the skills, the way I learned. I designed my own learning. Then decided that we’re going to do something very cheap, very simple for everybody around the world. You can learn how to code from Nepal to Afghanistan very easily.

Then I went to many African countries. I saw the laptop being piled up in places. I was so sad. Then I came back home. I said, "OK, I’m going to do something." I didn’t go to school. I personally had to teach myself how to code seven languages myself.

Then they wasted a lot of money in government, because the African government, you guys are so advanced compared to us. They didn’t understand that actually, you need to have a very clear curriculum of content, the teachers, and the community, so they failed.

They also didn’t have any content. It was just like, "OK, let’s give an African child a laptop." It was like a press stunt for them.

Our primary targets are the marginalized community. It’s people who don’t have access. The reason why they failed is because they didn’t have any curriculum like we did.

The One Laptop Per Child hasn’t been popular enough. It’s actually very dead now in many, many countries. What we did is we learned from the mistakes of all these organization in the past. When they came to Africa and many marginalized communities...

Actually, our idea was to put it on the Raspberry Pi, because we have our own computer kit, which is like a DIY kit where children can put together and learn how to code.

Yes. It’s part of the I Am the Code. What happened is, many organizations didn’t have any curriculum, tracks, or challenges. We then designed our own. We’ve been trying to get funding for this for a very long time to actually put it into a very CRM system, a very ...

Also, give them some ideas of how to implement them in their companies. It’s really fantastic.

It’s all free, and so now, we are using this content in our hackathons, boot camps, workshops, breakfasts for businesses, making sure businesses are aligned with the SDGs, and to educate them about them.

I’m happy to make the connection with them. When you come in London, you can even have Skype with the lady at the Palace. They’re amazing. It’s really great. They’re giving this content to all the commonwealth countries. I don’t know if you know, there are 52.

They can even build their own tech solutions. It’s all free. All the content is free. All they need is a little funding to run the activities physically, but also to give this to people. I think, like you said, it’s very timely.

We just partnered with the Duke of York Organisation. We’ve been working with him to develop this amazing platform called idea.org.uk. It is a badge system. It’s very easy to translate in Taiwanese as well. It’s free content. We are their partner and can use the content with you, you ...

African countries, they really like Taiwan, but it’s a bit of a deep dive. I think content, let’s say we find a way of working together. This content could be spread out across Africa, in the Middle East, and in many, many countries. The reach is massive.

It’s so great. It’s so fantastic. The other thing also we do, you just touched on it, is the pre-21 framework, the 21st century learning skills. We align this with the SDGs now. It’s really fantastic. Also, one of the things we can also look into, I don’t know.

Wow. That’s amazing.

That’s amazing.

We had some young people, some old people. They loved it for two days, but unfortunately, we didn’t have enough time. Now, everybody wants us to come back. I think this will be very, very good for made in Taiwan, and really focus on the SDGs. I wanted to meet ...

I wanted to meet you just to really give you some ideas of how we can work together. We have a very nice plan to...We’re going to be the first organization working with you to bring this into Taiwan. The hackathon was amazing.

She’s very interested in helping iamtheCODE. We were advise to meet with you. Our advisor said: "Maybe when you speak to the delegation, you can talk to them about how you can develop the curriculum even further with the Taiwanese backup."

What we wanted to do, really, was to get some funding to develop this further with made in Taiwan products. The Shin Kong Life Foundation, they connected us with a lady there who has got a foundation.

We have a very nice content. We have a very nice curriculum around the SDGs, over 1,200 lesson plans, totally based on the SDGs challenges, tracks, and all of that.

I meet the people in government. They were excited. They really welcome me very, very nicely. I told them i will come back to Taiwan. Two things we discussed. They wanted us to come back in Taipei to meet other partners. Then the second thing they wanted us to do ...

[laughs] You know? OK. Then basically, what we’re trying to do in Taiwan is, this Shin Kong Life Foundation, they’ve been absolutely great. I was there for five days. They organized so many meetings.

Just a very quick background. I run a tech company in the UK, but recently, I founded an organization called iamtheCODE.

I said, "I need to talk to them." Then I spoke to the Shin Kong Life Foundation in Taiwan. I said, "I don’t know if these guys know what we’ve been doing with you." They said, "Oh, my god. Please, we will do everything so you can to meet them." ...

Just in case. Basically, I’ve been doing a lot of work in Taipei and Taiwan with the Shin Kong Life Foundation. Two days ago, I was reading a google alert on Taiwan and something just popped up on my email saying that there’s a Taiwanese delegation going to the UN.

I can understand. Do you have time now so I can...?

I can do breakfast. OK, great. That’ll be fantastic. That’d be wonderful. I’ll see you on the 23rd?

I’m arriving on the 22nd in the evening. On the 23rd, I have a dinner in the evening, but I can do breakfast, if that’s OK with you.

I’m in a Starbucks, actually. That’s why the Internet is not very good.

How are you?

How are you doing?

Hi, Audrey

Hello?