One is supposed to be an annual event now?

Interesting. That’s good to know.

Different audience.

Good to know. It would be great to hear about that phrase.

Final.

In Chinese, but now you’re working on…

Yeah. As you know, we’ve been working with the parliament inside the alliance. It’d be great to…My understanding is you have the plan finished and drafted.

Got it, because you don’t have that issue.

Yeah, to make sure you have both.

That’s very meta.

Advertising.

Transparency sort of in a spotlight.

Interesting. Do you think to it had to do with sort of what we witnessed in the 2018 elections?

What you and the government, the social sector, have been up to in terms of finding, countering disinformation, and then happy to talk a bit about NDI and our work now that we are opening an office here.

It would be great to hear a postmortem of sorts of the elections, and the efforts that you were talking about. How that went in terms of the electoral period as well as that the COVID context.

I was looking through my notes of that meeting, and you brought up the point on democracy. I wrote down, “The foundation of democracy is public health,” which was very presssing at the time. Talking about how fighting pandemics and here we are. [laughs]

I know.

For me personally, it’d be great to check in on all that. That was before the elections, talking a lot about…

It’s always great to meet with you when we’re in town. Some things that we wanted to talk a little bit about were…last time I was part of the delegation that came in September 2019 and had a really interesting conversation.

I’m here from DC but I actually live in Oregon these days. Here because Alfred is our new resident director who I believe you met a week ago…

Thanks so much for meeting with us, especially for later in the evening. We appreciate squeezing us in.