Yeah, checkpointing, exactly.
Yeah, just to show you guys what we’re doing.
We will definitely stay in touch.
Absolutely. Basically, I just want to make sure we’re on record that we’re committed to open source, and to participate that route. It’s just a better way to develop, anyways. Thank you so much for your time.
No, totally. We’ll make it clear that it is our 100 percent intention to open source it, once we feel like we’ve sufficiently seeded it with a majority of good actors. These systems can be delicate. I appreciate your time so much.
Yeah, it’s like a closed beta.
We’re doing the right thing by sourcing out and connecting with people that are smarter than us, or more expert in different fields, bringing them together, and sourcing the right people.
Wonderful. That sounds great. We do have a lot of cool things under the hood that we’re planning. Anything we have on our website is just our, we didn’t publish everything. We’re actually working with a couple of PhDs in January that are experts in DHT, distributed hash tables.
From sensors, exactly.
Pull in high entropy sources from barometer data.
That’s great. Actually, you mentioned the IoT all around Taiwan, trusting government sources. These are, maybe at some point, actually, it would be pretty cool if we could integrate with that data.
Exactly.
That was wonderful. You guys have any other questions while we have Audrey’s time?
Small things like not having trash cans all over the place keeps it clean. Sure, Taipei, especially is an older city, but it’s a clean city. That goes to show a lot about just the people. It’s interesting.
That’s for sure. That’s one thing I’ve noticed. I have lived in different parts of Asia before, in Hong Kong, some time in China, in South Korea. Taiwan is very progressively, politically, and the society.
I know, of course.
I would love to see you think the world is going to look like in 20 years, as far as let’s just talk about governance.
That’s wonderful, that’s wonderful. Actually, I’m curious, I would love to hear in a snapshot, what do you think the world’s going to look like in 20 years?
It changes things, really, We are thinking about on-chain governance. I think the future of government is going to be direct democracy. If not on planet Earth, at least on Mars.
When it’s technologically and mechanically proven to provide that kind of capabilities, it does change society on a big, big scale.
It’s simple, in a sense, but I don’t think, originally I didn’t realize how much non-trust there was, how many middlemen, non-trust, and how important transparency was. Of course, you say that, it sounds like, "Yeah, it’s obvious."
We got to study these protocols, to pick and choose the parts that we liked, the parts that we didn’t think worked out very well. We’re trying to build a unified plan, of very long-term thinking. I personally believe that this type of technology is game-changing.
Actually, that’s one of the beautiful things about going last in this game. We got to see all these other projects, like Tezos that just focuses on governance. OK, that’s interesting, a study that we said...
It’s a direct democracy. That’s the way it should be. I’m sure the Founding Fathers of the United States, had they known about this technology, they would have designed it that way. Why wouldn’t you? We are thinking about on-chain governance from the beginning, and we’re designing it.
Blockchain is perfect for governance, at least for voting. That’s clear. As long as you can prove one individual, one node, or one individual, one entity. Then, of course, liquid governance, the ability to delegate your vote and change it with a few clicks.
It’s getting serious already.
Yeah.
I did.
I was like, "Whoa, yeah. ML, machine learning, AI, blockchain."
We’d love to keep you updated on this as we move forward. You’re an inspiration to us. It’s super cool that someone in government would have someone like you put in such an important role.
As a result, of course, you don’t know exactly how it’s going to unfold. If we’re able to pull off what we think we can pull off, or create something that is more fair, more democratic, more open, and potentially more impactful for the world.
This is important technology that we want to bring to the world. I think more than anything, we would love to, as we make these milestones and hit these milestones I’ll show you...We’re actually, we’re not forking the existing chain, and just doing a proof of state, concept. We’re doing ...
I think we made the right decision. My first time here was in June, July. We’re still a startup, very much. We’ve been self-funded until now. Things are moving fast, and we’re very optimistic that we’re on the right path.
If it wasn’t for that, I probably would have been a little more skeptical, like wait a second.
Politically, yeah. A lot of people speak English. Great resources, high IQ, on average, so that’s great. Actually, when I met Jon, he was in Taiwan. If it wasn’t for Vitalik, I’ve heard him talk about Taipei or Taiwan a few times.
No, but seriously, also, in Mandarin, too. We’ll do it in English and Mandarin. We’ll do translations. We see that Taiwan is a great location geographically. Also, with Southeast Asia, it’s easy to get to Hong Kong, Korea, Japan, China.
I’m not even going to send my kids to school.
There’s a lot of brilliant people that are in school, and even not even in a school. I’m a college drop-out.
That’s certainly, we think it’s important education, sharing the information, and getting people involved. Especially from the young age, so high school to college. Create some programs to help them out and initiatives.
We know that if you create great quality content once, it’s very, what do you call it? The costs of letting an additional person have access to it is basically minimal. We will produce a lot of quality content and educational material, and that will be broadly, of course. It’ll ...
DLT, for sure. DLT is what we’re also framing ourselves to be DLT launching, not cryptocurrency. We will have likewise some unit of measure for computation services. Speaking of education, you mentioned one of them as part of our community-building efforts, we actually will be focusing a lot on education.
We wanted to ask you a couple questions. Juin, you had a couple questions about just the ecosystem?
We’re happy to meet you, and to start to build a relationship with you. As we make developments, product upgrades and updates, it would be great to periodically, maybe once every quarter, just, "Hey, this is what we’re doing," just so you’re aware of it.
Yeah, on-chain numbers, not random generation.
That we’re not in a complete black box, that there are other people smarter than us looking into this and qualifying and validating these ideas.
There’s a lot of things we could learn from other projects, first of all. Like Laren just mentioned DKG, distributed key generation. There’s a project called Dfinity that we’ve learning from. It turns out some of the mathematics they use is similar to us. There’s some properties that are similar ...
That’s basically the concept. These errors are showing that there isn’t consensus being reached. This is the early stages. This is the precursor to our test net. We’ve only started developing on the actual coding of this about five weeks ago, but we’ve been focused on just research in the ...
Nice. Just to show that it’s not always a consensus?
What you’re about to see is a very rudimentary, hard-coded proof of concept, but we have a DHT implementation called Kademlia. We were running very basic, rudimentary Unity Protocol consensus on it. This is our CTO speaking here.
The core concept here, there’s not too much to show right now, but basically, we have a blockchain running from a DHT. In case anyone’s wondering, DHTs are distributed hash tables. They are incredibly scalable. It should be able to handle up to, frankly, millions, of nodes.